Russia & Ukraine Situation?

Admin Administrator WTF?? LOL Posts: 42	Russia & Ukraine Situation? Mar 5, 2014 17:41:49 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Admin on Mar 5, 2014 17:41:49 GMT What do you think about this Russia & Ukraine Situation, that's been going on for the last little while? Which side is more in the right? And which side do you believe more between the USA & Russia?

Rodac Guest	Russia & Ukraine Situation? Mar 5, 2014 19:45:45 GMT Admin and alexora like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Rodac on Mar 5, 2014 19:45:45 GMT The USA started this. I hope Putin kicks our stupid asses. USA, the most corrupt government and the dumbest society on the planet. Well except for Japan. Don't sanction someone you depend on bigmouth!!!

Estes Kefauver New Member Posts: 21	Russia & Ukraine Situation? Mar 6, 2014 1:12:09 GMT Admin likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Estes Kefauver on Mar 6, 2014 1:12:09 GMT Just for the conversational value, could we please have a little explanation of the reasoning for that comment please? TIA for your response.

Rodac Guest	Russia & Ukraine Situation? Mar 6, 2014 1:56:33 GMT Admin and alexora like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Rodac on Mar 6, 2014 1:56:33 GMT Russian natural gas provides “lifeblood” to western Europe and there is substantial “dependency.”

Estes Kefauver New Member Posts: 21	Russia & Ukraine Situation? Mar 6, 2014 4:16:36 GMT Admin likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Estes Kefauver on Mar 6, 2014 4:16:36 GMT OK then. I guess I never got the memo that explained that idea.

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Russia & Ukraine Situation? Mar 6, 2014 16:30:21 GMT

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Post by Admin on Mar 6, 2014 16:30:21 GMT

So, Russia is actually ONLY protecting their money making product then. And not wanting to take over Ukraine period? If so, why not just have a normal conversation with them about it? lol. I'm not laughing at you, just at the situation.

alexora New Member Posts: 2	Russia & Ukraine Situation? Mar 6, 2014 22:22:22 GMT Admin likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by alexora on Mar 6, 2014 22:22:22 GMT What is happening in The Ukraine territory of Crimea is an insult against all who believe in the rule of international law.

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Russia & Ukraine Situation? Mar 7, 2014 5:29:20 GMT

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If he thinks he is so macho & tough. Lets see him get in the ring with Klitschko. And which ever one wins, gets to chose what happens next. lol

Mar 6, 2014 22:22:22 GMT alexora said:

What is happening in The Ukraine territory of Crimea is an insult against all who believe in the rule of international law.

Admin Administrator WTF?? LOL Posts: 42	Russia & Ukraine Situation? Mar 7, 2014 5:30:02 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Admin on Mar 7, 2014 5:30:02 GMT Didn't Putin do a similar thing in Georgia? ( The country, not the state? ) lol

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Russia & Ukraine Situation? Mar 15, 2014 23:02:48 GMT rodac likes this

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Post by Armanoïd on Mar 15, 2014 23:02:48 GMT

"http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-20/ukraine-situation-explained-one-map"

Make no mistake, putin is not an angel, it's KGB
But in front of him, it's no better, remember who's allied with the US, the fucking saudi arabia and qatar, among others

"http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/06/29/311339/ksa-qatar-orchestrated-syria-crisis/"

The former US national security adviser says the ongoing crisis in Syria has been orchestrated by Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and their western allies.

“In late 2011 there are outbreaks in Syria produced by a drought and abetted by two well-known autocracies in the Middle East: Qatar and Saudi Arabia,” Zbigniew Brzezinski said in an interview with The National Interest on June 24.

"http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/10266957/Saudis-offer-Russia-secret-oil-deal-if-it-drops-Syria.html"

As-Safir said Prince Bandar pledged to safeguard Russia’s naval base in Syria if the Assad regime is toppled, but he also hinted at Chechen terrorist attacks on Russia’s Winter Olympics in Sochi if there is no accord. “I can give you a guarantee to protect the Winter Olympics next year. The Chechen groups that threaten the security of the games are controlled by us,” he allegedly said.

See what's going on here ?

More:

"http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-14/russians-have-already-quietly-pulled-their-money-west"
"http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-14/gazprom-chairman-sold-all-his-shares-just-russia-invaded-crimea"
"http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-13/ron-paul-putins-crimea-invasion-has-law-its-side"
"http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-13/russian-explains-real-stakes-fight-crimea-and-ukraine"

The crisis escalated into a conflict between the U.S. and Russia after the West supported a coup, then lied by violating the Feb. 21 agreement when it recognized the formation of a new and illegitimate government of extremists.

"Oligarchs v. Banksters, bitchez!"

Indeed

"http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-05/behind-kiev-snipers-it-was-somebody-new-coaltion-stunning-new-leak-reveals-truth"

The last time a leaked phone call out of Ukraine was released about a month ago ostensibly by the Russian NSA equivalent, one between US assistant sec state Victoria Nuland and the US envoy to the Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt, it was revealed that the real puppet masters behind the Maidan movement, and the true instigators of the Ukraine "revolution" were none other than the "developed" world superpowers, lead by the US. Also revealed were tensions between the US and EU strategies on how to overthrow the current government, culminating with the infamous "Fuck the EU." Needless to say the US, which implicitly confirmed the recording, was angry at Russia and accused it of using dirty tricks.

That's ironic, because when it comes to "dirty tricks" what is about to be presented, blows the top off anything Russia may or has done to date.

Earlier today an even more shocking recording has been "leaked" this time one between the always concerned about human rights EU foreign affairs chief Catherine Ashton and Estonian foreign minister Urmas Paet, in which it is revealed on tape that all those photos of horrifying deaths of Ukrainians by snipers during the last days of the Median stand off, were in fact caused not by Snipers controlled by Yanukovich, but that the snipers shot at both protesters and police in Kiev were allegedly hired by Maidan leaders!

Here is the key exchange, just after 8 minutes into the conversation :

Paet: "All the evidence shows that people who were killed by snipers from both sides, policemen and people from the streets, that they were the same snipers killing people from both sides. ... Some photos that showed it is the same handwriting, the same type of bullets, and it is really disturbing that now the new coalition they don't want to investigate what exactly happened. So there is now stronger and stronger understanding that behind the snipers, it was not Yanukovych, but it was somebody from the new coalition."

Ashton: "I think we do want to investigate. I mean, I didn’t pick that up, that’s interesting. Gosh."

Paet: "It already discreditates (sic) this new coalition."

See ?

It's shit upon shit in this story

Here's the choice given to all of us by MSM, "it's russia or US, wooden legs or lead teeth, your choice"

FUCK THAT, I DON'T TAKE SIDE, NONE SERVE THE INTERESTS OF UKRAINIAN PEOPLE

Guess who wins if Russia decides to cut the gas supply ?
Yes, qatar, saudi arabia, because they will provide

Guess who wins if Russia pulls back ?
Same as above, but in an other way, it's civil war and terrorist infiltration in front of moscow (ukraine), kossovo style

No matter how you spin it, it's big trouble

Last Edit: Mar 15, 2014 23:29:55 GMT by Armanoïd

rodac New Member Posts: 20	Russia & Ukraine Situation? Mar 18, 2014 5:07:32 GMT Admin likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by rodac on Mar 18, 2014 5:07:32 GMT The USA government are FOOLS. Putin will put the US in a microwave. Jim Sinclair: www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXGPzDq45gM#t=1568

Armanoïd New Member Posts: 28	Russia & Ukraine Situation? Mar 20, 2014 22:25:49 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Armanoïd on Mar 20, 2014 22:25:49 GMT Wait until they unleash hillary You thought bush and obama were bad ? Think again !

Armanoïd New Member Posts: 28	Russia & Ukraine Situation? Mar 20, 2014 22:26:02 GMT rodac likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Armanoïd on Mar 20, 2014 22:26:02 GMT Wait until they unleash hillary You thought bush and obama were bad ? Think again !